From Ceremony Up
With Dr. Lyana Patrick, 2025-2026 Podcaster in Residence with the Creative Entanglement Collaboratory.
From Ceremony Up is a limited series providing in-depth discussion on the joys and challenges of working within colonial systems of health and justice. It features diverse Indigenous understandings of health and justice, and what it means to take a strengths-based and decolonial approach to the work. Hosted by Lyana Patrick (Stellat’en First Nation / Acadian / Scottish) and based on her extensive collaborative research with the Native Courtworker and Counselling Association of British Columbia.

Episodes
Episode 1:
Our Communities; Our Healing

How can organizations like the Native Courtworker and Counselling Association of British Columbia support Indigenous healing in and beyond the justice system? What makes this work so vital? And what is the story behind this essential work? In this first episode of From Ceremony Up, we welcome Hugh Braker, Melissa Vabic, and Lara-Lisa Condello for a foundational conversation on how Indigenous peoples are both deeply impacted by and resist historic and ongoing colonial violence to imagine different pathways forward.
Guests: Hugh Braker, Melissa Vabic, Lara-Lisa Condello
Recommended resources from our guests on episode 1:
- Check out The Grandmothers. For the Next 7 Generations on YouTube for deep teachings and a discussion on how important it is to honor holistic approaches to healing.
- Gain a deeper understanding of how Indigenous resistance and restoration counters colonial harms through All Our Relations: Finding the Path Forward by Tanya Talaga
Episode 2:
Where We Gather; Healing Comes

How can we support healing and create wellness in urban Indigenous settings? What role do policies and the land play in seeing that healing bloom? And how can we turn to hope and keep pushing for change when faced with the reality of systemic colonial harm? In episode two, Lyana sits down with Ginger Gosnell-Meyers and frontline workers from the Native Courtworker and Counselling Association of British Columbia to explore these questions and more through their change-making work.
Guests: Ginger Gosnell-Myers, Melissa Vabic, Aaron Mitchell, Ava Vargas, Lynn Power
Recommended resources from our guests on episode 2:
- Dive into Emergent Strategy, a book by Adrienne Maree Brown that offers practical advice for change makers that is grounded in lived experience as an activist with Black Lives Matters and Indigenous environmentalism.
- Check out Embers: One Ojibway’s Meditations, a book by Richard Wagamese that offers personal reflections and teachings from Elders on how to gain strength, mourn effectively, find peace, and keep going with the important work in front of you.
Episode 3:
No Justice;
No Health

How can being together on the land and engaging in ceremonies and healing support transformational change for people who have experienced incarceration? How can we create futures that center Indigenous perspectives and experiences of health and justice? And what examples can we look to of this healing work in motion? In this final episode of From Ceremony Up, we hear from Dr. Nicole Redvers and Darla Rasmussen to explore these questions and more through stories that have inspired them as they fight for Indigenous justice and wellbeing.
Guests: Nicole Redvers, Darla Rasmussen
Recommended resources from our guests on episode 2:
- Continue learning from Dr. Nicole Redvers poignant insights through her book The Science of the Sacred: Bridging Global Indigenous Medicine Systems and Modern Scientific Principles.
- Learn more about the urban land-based healing camp in Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada through the article Urban Land-Based Healing: A Northern Intervention Strategy.
- ‘Feel that connectivity’ by tuning into the musical talents of Fawn Wood.
From Ceremony Up comes to your through the 2025-2026 Podcaster in Residence program with the Creative Entanglement Collaboratory. The podcast was also generously supported in its early days through an Indigenous Digital Media Grant from the Simon Fraser University Library.
Our Executive Producer is Emilia Nielsen, and our producers are Coco Nielsen and Emily Blyth.
The music for this podcast is composed by Jason Burnstick.
A big thank you to all of the people who made From Ceremony Up possible: SFU Community Engaged Research Initiative (Researcher-in-Residence Program), Joanna Habdank, Genevieve Leis, Alya Govorchin, Tylar Campbell, Emily R. Blyth, Coco Nielsen, Emilia Nielsen, Jason Burnstick, Arthur Paul, John Sakamoto-Kramer, Tom Oleman, Val Joseph, the members of the Below the Radar team: Am Johal, Julia Aoki, Kathy Feng, Joey Malbon, and Samantha Walters, and all of our wonderful guests.
Our host, Dr. Lyana Patrick, would love to hear from you, our listeners. Keep the conversation going via email at lyana_patrick@sfu.ca.
